On Wednesday , The New York Times publishedan encompassing interviewwith PayPal cofounder andGawker - destroyingbillionaire Peter Thiel , a man who , though we have never met , seems totally regular and cool .

As a venture capitalist ( and early Facebook investor ) , Thiel has long been a major actor in Silicon Valley , but gained home political prominence after speaking at the Republican National Convention last year , contributing $ 1.25 millionto Donald Trump ’s campaign and evenjoining the President - elect ’s changeover team .

relate on topic range from his relationship with Trump ( who declared they ’re “ friend for life sentence ” ) to the relative merits of Star Wars versus Star Trek ( as a capitalist , he prefers the former ) , Thiel afford a variety of absolutely reasonable solvent during his exchange with the Times . Below are 11 of the most normal quotes from the interview .

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1 . Peter Thiel on President Obama and political corruption :

“ [ T]here ’s a power point where no rottenness can be a sorry thing . It can mean that things are too boring . ”

2 . Peter Thiel on Donald Trumpand intimate rape :

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“ On the one hand , the tape was understandably offensive and out or keeping . At the same fourth dimension , I worry there ’s a part of Silicon Valley that is hyper - politically correct about sex . ”

3 . Peter Thiel on Star Wars versus Star Trek :

“ I like ‘ Star Wars ’ way well . I ’m a capitalist . ‘ Star Wars ’ is the capitalistic show . ‘ Star Trek ’ is the communistic one . There is no money in ‘ Star Trek ’ because you just have the transporter automobile that can make anything you need . The whole plot of ‘ Star Wars ’ start with Han Solo make this debt that he owes and so the game in ‘ Star Wars ’ is driven by money .

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4 . Peter Thiel on the compulsion withtrying to hold out foreverhe shares with many others in Silicon Valley :

“ Why is everyone else so apathetic about their mortality ? ”

5 . Peter Thiel on how he communicates with other good and normal humans :

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“ Maybe I do always have this background programme running where I ’m trying to think of , ‘ O.K. , what ’s the opposite of what you ’re saying ? ’ and then I ’ll stress that [ … ] It works surprisingly often . ”

6 . Peter Thiel on climate modification and Donald Trump , who once disregard ball-shaped thaw as a hoax “ create by and for the Chinese ” :

“ Does he really call back that ? If he really thinks that , how would you influence that ? If he really thinks that and you could influence him , what would be the best way to do it ? ”

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7 . Peter Thiel on the political echo chamber of Facebook ( I think ? ):

“ There ’s nobody you know who knows anybody . There ’s nobody you know who knows anybody who knows anybody , ad infinitum . ”

8 . Peter Thiel on how he submit Trump ’s paleoconservatism with his own utopian futurism :

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“ Even if there are aspect of Trump that are retro and that seem to be give-up the ghost back to the past tense , I think a lot of citizenry want to go back to a past that was futurist — ‘ The Jetsons , ’ ‘ Star Trek . ’ They ’re see but futurist . ”

9 . Peter Thiel on whether conflict of interest ( of which Donald Trump will have many ) are a bad thing :

“ I do n’t want to can ethical concerns here , but I worry that ‘ conflict of sake ’ gets excessively weaponized in our political relation . I think in many case , when there ’s a conflict of interest , it ’s an indication that someone understands something right smart better than if there ’s no conflict of interest . If there ’s no battle of interest , it ’s often because you ’re just not interested . ”

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10 . Peter Thiel on abortion and the Supreme Court :

“ It ’s like , even if you appointed a whole series of cautious Supreme Court justices , I ’m not certain that Roe v. Wade would get overturned , ever . I do n’t know if people even care about the Supreme Court . ”

11 . Peter Thiel on how his good booster Donald Trump is handling his changeover into the Oval Office :

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Mr. Trump seems o.k. .

This is all right . Everything is fine .

[ The New York Times ]

Argentina’s President Javier Milei (left) and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., holding a chainsaw in a photo posted to Kennedy’s X account on May 27. 2025.

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